, we've grown to expect government to do, if we don't take care of medicare and medicaid. we say it time and time again, yet i get politicians on this show that still pretend that you can take care of waste, fraud, and abuse. and we'll take care of it. and they'll be selling some of the spectacle. >> and foreign aid. >> yeah, let's cut foreign aid. >> it is not even getting at the edges of the problem. and what i asked the senator is, is a simpson/bowles framework dead? is that now gone off the table? but is there still some potential there to bring that back? do you see the president potentially taking the lead on that issue in the state of the union? and finally embracing that as a framework or is there some other model out there, i mean, because you have been, in my estimation, one of the stronger voices on the conservative side about that fiscal component. and so, my view is pretty much lined up with yours. >> it's hard to know. the senate has not operated under regular order for 3 1/2 years. you know, one of the ways to restore confidence in washington is to go back t